Since my last post a few weeks back, I have been waiting patiently for a call back from Spandex telling me the results of the test the engineer did. I called the 2 days ago and the young lady I spoke to said she would need to chase up the engineer and call me back, Guess what no call back - Surprise Surprise
I called again yesterday to speak to accounts to tell them that I am cancelling my payments for the gerber, the Spandex Representative just said its nothing to do with them (Funny that - after all they sold me the machine that does not work correctly, well at least I think so - It would be nice for somebody to give me a straight answer)
I then called the finance company and they also said its nothing to do with them, and I I did cancel the payments they would chase me.
So here is the scenario
1: I am on my second Gerber edge in a few months (I still don't think its working - but nobody will tell me)
2: Spandex wont help and have the money for the machine.
3: The finance company wont help either saying its a spandex problem
what now - Oh by the way still no call backs !!!!!!!!
Thursday, June 29, 2006
Friday, June 23, 2006
self cling is a problem it seems with the Gerber FX
A massive thank you to the guys at http://www.4edgetalk.com/ forum for pointing this out to me, I am just amazed that after dealing with at least 5 different people at Spandex UK, not one of them knew this - simply appalling !!!!!
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Gerber Scientific Products Inc.
Product Bulletin
Reference PS-Static February 1997 FastFacts # 5551
Gerber Static Cling Vinyl
DESCRIPTION
Gerber Static Cling is a 7.5 mil, highly plasticized vinyl film designed to adhere to glass and other clean, smooth nonporous
surfaces. Static Cling has been designed for use with Gerber Digital Color Printing Systems and GerberColor Foils.
Gerber Static Cling is available in clear and white.
INTENDED APPLICATIONS
Static Cling vinyl is ideally suited for producing attractive single and multi-color graphics for interior signs and displays.
Static Cling can also be used as a substrate for easily-mounted and removable, temporary signs.
This vinyl is intended for temporary application to glass. It may also function adequately on smooth, non-porous plastics
and metals. Static Cling is not intended for use on painted surfaces without prior test and approval by the user. The user
should determine the suitability of all substrates prior to application.
Static Cling is intended for interior applications only. It is not intended for applications where petrochemical contact may occur.
APPLICATION TECHNIQUES
Applying the decorated surface of Static Cling directly to the substrate may result in partial transfer of the graphic. Print
graphics in reverse mode if the opposing substrate surface is the preferred viewing mode (clear Static Cling only).
Clear Static Cling may develop a surface haze. The haze will dissipate after the graphic is applied.
The application surface must be clean, smooth, and as close to room temperature as possible. Small Static Cling graphics
can be applied dry and without application tape. Use a roller or a squeegee with a non-friction sleeve to smooth Static Cling into place.
PRINTING
If your software material selection palette does not have Gerber Static Cling, use Scotchcal 220 lighter print settings.
GerberColor Spot (GCS) Series, GerberColor Process (GCP) SUPER CMYK Series, and GerberColor Transparent
(GCT) Series Foils can be used to print onto Gerber Static Cling. Blot away any excess pigment transfer of certain
GerberColor Foils with application tape immediately after printing.
The bail arm squeegees on your Gerber Digital Color Printing System may stick to the surface of Static Cling. Applying a
strip of Gerber Hi-tack application tape on the squeegees should eliminate this occurrence.
CUTTING
Gerber Static Cling can be cut on any 15” GRAPHIX ADVANTAGE compatible plotter. A 30° SuperSharp blade is
recommended. Plotters can be set to full speed. A test cut should be performed by the user to determine the proper tool
force setting.
PROTECTING GRAPHICS
Abrasion Guard is a clear, top-coat GerberColor Foil designed to protect graphics from moderate contact or handling.
SHELF LIFE AND STORAGE
Gerber Static Cling can be stored for six months after purchase. Film should be kept in a clean area free from excessive
moisture and direct sunlight. Maintain temperature at less than 75°F (23°C) and ensure 75% RH.
Use a paper interleaf between printed materials that are stacked or rolled. Do not store printed graphics face to face.
MAINTENANCE
To clean printed graphics, use a mild, non-abrasive soap with a soft cloth or sponge. Avoid using alcohol-based cleansers
or soaps containing grit or abrasives
PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
Thickness 7.5 mil
Film Color Clear, White
Adhesive n/a
Adhesive Color n/a
Minimum Application Temp 40°F (5°C)
RELATED LITERATURE
GerberColor Spot (GCS) Series, GerberColor Process (GCP) SUPER CMYK Series, and GerberColor Transparent (GCT)
Series Product Bulletins.
For help with questions concerning Gerber products, please call your distributor or Gerber Customer Service at 1-800-
222-7446 or (860)643-1515.
GRAPHIX ADVANTAGE is a Registered Trademark of Gerber Scientific Products, Inc.
GerberColor and GerberColor SUPER CMYK are Trademarks of Gerber Scientific Products, Inc.
Scotchcal is a Trademark of The 3M Corporation.
__________________________________________
Gerber Scientific Products Inc.
Product Bulletin
Reference PS-Static February 1997 FastFacts # 5551
Gerber Static Cling Vinyl
DESCRIPTION
Gerber Static Cling is a 7.5 mil, highly plasticized vinyl film designed to adhere to glass and other clean, smooth nonporous
surfaces. Static Cling has been designed for use with Gerber Digital Color Printing Systems and GerberColor Foils.
Gerber Static Cling is available in clear and white.
INTENDED APPLICATIONS
Static Cling vinyl is ideally suited for producing attractive single and multi-color graphics for interior signs and displays.
Static Cling can also be used as a substrate for easily-mounted and removable, temporary signs.
This vinyl is intended for temporary application to glass. It may also function adequately on smooth, non-porous plastics
and metals. Static Cling is not intended for use on painted surfaces without prior test and approval by the user. The user
should determine the suitability of all substrates prior to application.
Static Cling is intended for interior applications only. It is not intended for applications where petrochemical contact may occur.
APPLICATION TECHNIQUES
Applying the decorated surface of Static Cling directly to the substrate may result in partial transfer of the graphic. Print
graphics in reverse mode if the opposing substrate surface is the preferred viewing mode (clear Static Cling only).
Clear Static Cling may develop a surface haze. The haze will dissipate after the graphic is applied.
The application surface must be clean, smooth, and as close to room temperature as possible. Small Static Cling graphics
can be applied dry and without application tape. Use a roller or a squeegee with a non-friction sleeve to smooth Static Cling into place.
PRINTING
If your software material selection palette does not have Gerber Static Cling, use Scotchcal 220 lighter print settings.
GerberColor Spot (GCS) Series, GerberColor Process (GCP) SUPER CMYK Series, and GerberColor Transparent
(GCT) Series Foils can be used to print onto Gerber Static Cling. Blot away any excess pigment transfer of certain
GerberColor Foils with application tape immediately after printing.
The bail arm squeegees on your Gerber Digital Color Printing System may stick to the surface of Static Cling. Applying a
strip of Gerber Hi-tack application tape on the squeegees should eliminate this occurrence.
CUTTING
Gerber Static Cling can be cut on any 15” GRAPHIX ADVANTAGE compatible plotter. A 30° SuperSharp blade is
recommended. Plotters can be set to full speed. A test cut should be performed by the user to determine the proper tool
force setting.
PROTECTING GRAPHICS
Abrasion Guard is a clear, top-coat GerberColor Foil designed to protect graphics from moderate contact or handling.
SHELF LIFE AND STORAGE
Gerber Static Cling can be stored for six months after purchase. Film should be kept in a clean area free from excessive
moisture and direct sunlight. Maintain temperature at less than 75°F (23°C) and ensure 75% RH.
Use a paper interleaf between printed materials that are stacked or rolled. Do not store printed graphics face to face.
MAINTENANCE
To clean printed graphics, use a mild, non-abrasive soap with a soft cloth or sponge. Avoid using alcohol-based cleansers
or soaps containing grit or abrasives
PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
Thickness 7.5 mil
Film Color Clear, White
Adhesive n/a
Adhesive Color n/a
Minimum Application Temp 40°F (5°C)
RELATED LITERATURE
GerberColor Spot (GCS) Series, GerberColor Process (GCP) SUPER CMYK Series, and GerberColor Transparent (GCT)
Series Product Bulletins.
For help with questions concerning Gerber products, please call your distributor or Gerber Customer Service at 1-800-
222-7446 or (860)643-1515.
GRAPHIX ADVANTAGE is a Registered Trademark of Gerber Scientific Products, Inc.
GerberColor and GerberColor SUPER CMYK are Trademarks of Gerber Scientific Products, Inc.
Scotchcal is a Trademark of The 3M Corporation.
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Self Cling Vinyl problems
After about 3 days and 20+ ms of self cling I have finally figured out what is going on. The biggest problem I have with this Gerber fx is that it keeps jamming when printing self cling. It just so happens that its the material I print on the most (car park passes etc...)
I even went as far as going up to Spandex and got the demo room machine up and running, that machine failed to print them, so we got another brand new FX from one of the class rooms and low and behold that jammed as well. I was then told that guys that print onto self cling just expect wastage and don't do long runs. This amazed me, my average run would be 2000+ labels in one go and to do them one meter at a time is ridiculous.
Eventually I found that the 2 white dust strips stick to the self cling. I ripped them out and it now works a treat. My question to the engineer was is this normal, he replied with - clients do what ever they need to to get the machine running as they want it to. I just assumed that the Gerber FX would cope with self cling - is this not the case?
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